I paper traded laying every horse selection from the punterslounge last night (not here, too much respect for the stattos). I back dated it over a few weeks and found I wouldve made a nice profit . For a while I've been laying the Racing Post Naps Comp on the basis that for 40 years they have lost mountains of cash. It's true you WILL make money from it, but you need a huge bank to do it and you could be waiting 40 years to see the benefit. The big downfall to laying them is you'll often see 4 selections in one race (50 tipsters), meaning that although the overall table is showing a loss, individual races can really hurt you. I've had a few bad days on there that when looked at simplistically should've returned a profit.. not the case.. im sticking to laying punters.
The sad truth is that punters generally lose money, the more bets you take the more likely it is you'll end up winning. There was one meeting on there that would've returned a loss and about 16 that would've made me loads.
I've been looking at opening the doors to Spacebroke Hills for a while now, laying horses, football and US sports to anybody whose placing bets on Betfair. Found my horses to lay (PL. plus horses tipped by 4 or more of the RP tipsters), found my football bets (2 tipster competition sites I managed to get through BetHelp, both have alot of members, I'll be laying any bet that more than 3 people go for) and am now giving myself 3 weeks to find a US site that can turn me into a 24 hour operation.
The laying of the RP naps saw me double my initial £150 stake to over £300 in 2 weeks with £1 a tip lays, its stagnated now in what appears to be a good spell for layers. I'm taking steps forward of about £20 a week (after the losing days). I'll be starting with £400 when I go global.
The RP naps table is down about 600 points overall on the year, even taking away 5% commission and 40% (average) for the betfair sp's, its a layers dream. As I said before you will find races everyday that throw up multiple runners in them, if you dont lay every selection then you dont get the overall value but if you do do it then you lose alot of money per race. I wont be laying journalists who are actually trying to nap things their readers want in order to sell papers, I'll be laying the mugs.
If the BF forum was structured better it would be an ideal place to find my punters, everyones a loser on there, the layers more than anyone, the mere mention of 'staking plan' gets you shunned out of the forums. Horrible place.
So I've got my Horses showing excellent laying figures, footy tipster comps where most have 30% or lower strike rates on Even money shots and need your help in finding the US punters. IF theres any decent tennis, cricket or greyhound tipster comps out there then give them a flagging here and ill get wired into them too. I'm not one to turn away a regular customer!
The US and football bets appeal to me as the prices are relatively low, even though the markets only have 2 or 3 runners..? Tennis will fall under that too as I'd imagine any tipster comp being full of folk punting on short priced shots.
As posted elsewhere, I now work in a bookamkers for real, which was largely brought about by me finding myself sitting in one for hours as a punter, watching my lays go down. I'm now being paid to do it..
If anybodies interested in going along for the ride or has any suggestions then sign up here, should I post a profit over the course of a month or two then there will be scope to increase liabilities all over the place.
Ps And please nobody ask why Boylescat's only want to lay the tips multiple folk go for on comps, the truth is I've seen it online and in person hundreds of times, 'good things' dont shut down bookies
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